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less than a year later, president obama cut ties with mr. wright after clips came out of the pastor's racially charged sermons. the obama campaign released a statement last night, calling the video a, quote, transparent attempt to change the subject ahead of the debate. the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is a
less than a year later, president obama cut ties with mr. wright after clips came out of the pastor's racially charged sermons. the obama campaign released a statement last night, calling the video a, quote, transparent attempt to change the subject ahead of the debate. the romney campaign distanced itself from the video saying it had no involvement with the release. paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long...
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all year this year obama was basically ahead in the polls, a winner's narrative. romney with a winner's narrative. i sense it's changing with big bird and "sesame street." sort of becoming self fulfilling. i'm wondering if biden is not perceived as the winner of this debate tomorrow night, is that going to make the narrative problem a loss worse for the obama campaign? >> it is if the polls that were taken out in the field in the beginning of this week are the same as the ones we saw that were taken, you know, friday night and in to the weekend and they continue to confirm that mitt romney's really surging in all the right places and that would become a problem. if there's sort of, you know, a draw between biden and ryan, where we say, boy, they both really did pretty well. ryan held his own, biden didn't say something crazy and they both have a lot of knowledge if not experience but they're credible and qualified and the obama ticket didn't mess up and then you saw in the polls more of a settling, i think you'd have a more competitive situation going in to tuesda
all year this year obama was basically ahead in the polls, a winner's narrative. romney with a winner's narrative. i sense it's changing with big bird and "sesame street." sort of becoming self fulfilling. i'm wondering if biden is not perceived as the winner of this debate tomorrow night, is that going to make the narrative problem a loss worse for the obama campaign? >> it is if the polls that were taken out in the field in the beginning of this week are the same as the ones...
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although it did mark the first time all year obama's seen something get passed. very interesting. >> tonight jimmy welcomes funny man martin short, actor logan and a musical guest. that's at 12:35, 11:35 central time on your local nbc station. >>> tmz is reporting a trouble on the set of "american idol." we knew this was coming, right? >> is it set up, though? is it real. >> we shall see. new judge nikcki minaj threatend to knock out mariah carey over a disagreement on a contestant. she said she's not going to put up with her highness. we cleaned that up for tv. >>> the sing he's of the best-selling duet in pop music history, "you're the one that i want" will be reuniting. they have a holiday album coming out. proceeds go to charity. >>> liam neeson bared all on "ellen" tuesday. he stripped down to hot, hot pink underwear, sat in a dunk tank chamber and got soaked by an audience member and raised $20,000 for breast cancer research. looking good, liam. >> good for him. >>> and sy is saying he will do the gangnam style topless if it reaches number one. can we all k
although it did mark the first time all year obama's seen something get passed. very interesting. >> tonight jimmy welcomes funny man martin short, actor logan and a musical guest. that's at 12:35, 11:35 central time on your local nbc station. >>> tmz is reporting a trouble on the set of "american idol." we knew this was coming, right? >> is it set up, though? is it real. >> we shall see. new judge nikcki minaj threatend to knock out mariah carey over a...
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it seems the average of all polls all year has obama aahead. the media coverage has been skrush constructed around obama as the winner. if romney takes the lead consistently, is that the danger for obama? the media narrative changes and he's coming from behind? >> that's true. it's a pretty big if. the poll of polls is much more reliable than individual polls, because they can be all over the lot. i do think there is definitely the risk of media overreaction just as we overreacted to the sense it was curtains for romney before. i suspect there will be some of the overreaction now. now that they brought out big bird, i think that really will change the trajectory here. >> game changer. you know who i miss from the republican primary? >> who do you miss? >> newt gingrich. not enough nut ewt in this campaign. let's take a look. >> he said, i will close enough deductions that wealthy americans will not get a net tax cut. now, that's a pretty clear subscription. >> and it's impossible to -- >> let me say this. standing on the stage with you in arizo
it seems the average of all polls all year has obama aahead. the media coverage has been skrush constructed around obama as the winner. if romney takes the lead consistently, is that the danger for obama? the media narrative changes and he's coming from behind? >> that's true. it's a pretty big if. the poll of polls is much more reliable than individual polls, because they can be all over the lot. i do think there is definitely the risk of media overreaction just as we overreacted to the...
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night doesn't want to be held accountable for the last year. we don't want what he has been selling over the last year. he may dance around his positions and may do a tap dance and a two step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. [ applause ] >> alex wagner please, help me get the image of mitt romney dancing out of my mind. >> i will say this. there has been a flush of him since the debate. but i don't know how excited the conservative base is going to be in the long run as we unpack the positions that mitt romney has newly adopted as embracing parts of obamacare. maybe pell grants aren't such a bad idea. they know they are very, very rested. it will be interesting to see if the get it in the next couple of weeks. >> the president is saying you can't trust him no matter what he says, you don't know what he is going to say tomorrow. >> yes, and that is a new line of attack. and in fact it is something that they laid the ground work on last night. i think the jury is out on this. the idea that he is not pr
night doesn't want to be held accountable for the last year. we don't want what he has been selling over the last year. he may dance around his positions and may do a tap dance and a two step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. [ applause ] >> alex wagner please, help me get the image of mitt romney dancing out of my mind. >> i will say this. there has been a flush of him since the debate. but i don't know how excited the conservative base...
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difference is that the obama years haven't improved that much now, have they? >> the obama years are pretty -- we didn't go into a great depression -- >> this is what voters are deciding. it was worse under w. but it's not good enough better -- you didn't clean up the bush mess welloff. thank you. that's the argument. you would think the obama campaign would want to start looking forward toward the vp debate this week and the two remaining presidential debates. today the obama camp released this ad going back to romney's line about big bird. this i think is mickey mouse but let's take a look. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird, big bird, big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking oun our enemies no malter where they nest. >> please, god, just for a minute
difference is that the obama years haven't improved that much now, have they? >> the obama years are pretty -- we didn't go into a great depression -- >> this is what voters are deciding. it was worse under w. but it's not good enough better -- you didn't clean up the bush mess welloff. thank you. that's the argument. you would think the obama campaign would want to start looking forward toward the vp debate this week and the two remaining presidential debates. today the obama camp...
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so obviously a lot of tonight is going to be about president obama's record, just since four years ago president obama was looking back at the record of those he wanted to replace. >>ormer republican governor out here. thanks for coming on this. >>> the monthly private payrolls report is out today. markets are just opening. let's get to the market run down. becky quick is here on the other side of the camera. >> i like this. >> private payroll, adp. mid 100s. does it tell us anything? >> 162 is better than the street has been expecting. adp does payrolls for a lot of private sector companies. they have a pretty good idea of what is happening because they do so many different companies. 162 a little better than expected. sometimes it is dead on for what we can expect on friday from the jobs report which takes a look at government jobs. sometimes it's way off. that is what happened last month when they had 201,000 for adps numbers and then the jobs numbers was only 96. today the markets are indicating a little higher. stocks opening up about 25 points for the dow. the big number is frida
so obviously a lot of tonight is going to be about president obama's record, just since four years ago president obama was looking back at the record of those he wanted to replace. >>ormer republican governor out here. thanks for coming on this. >>> the monthly private payrolls report is out today. markets are just opening. let's get to the market run down. becky quick is here on the other side of the camera. >> i like this. >> private payroll, adp. mid 100s. does it...
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that's why you see the gaps among mitt romney and barack obama. that is a gap that is closing. you first saw mitt romney out on the campaign trail today with chris christie trying to come across as a regular guy. i do think that this argument that bain capital and his record there and that he supported outsourcing. >> you're there in ohio, a state that was impacted with the auto bailout and the others. on the ground, how is this affecting him with ohioans, because he needs ohio to win. >> one in ten jobs is connected to the auto industry in ohio and in the midwest, many more jobs. that's why you see these gaps. it's down to 4%. it had been as high as 8% beforehand. when you talk to democrats and folks on the ground in ohio, there is a sense that the economy is getting better. it's about 8.6% in january 2009, had rocketed up to 10.6%. it's 7.2% now. i think obama is trying to run on that trend and you have romney, of course, trying to really say that these turnarounds in terms of the economy were due to republican economic policies put in place by kasich, a difficult argument to
that's why you see the gaps among mitt romney and barack obama. that is a gap that is closing. you first saw mitt romney out on the campaign trail today with chris christie trying to come across as a regular guy. i do think that this argument that bain capital and his record there and that he supported outsourcing. >> you're there in ohio, a state that was impacted with the auto bailout and the others. on the ground, how is this affecting him with ohioans, because he needs ohio to win....
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i was here in the senate when president obama took over. we were in an unbelievable deep hole and i think things are beginning to improve. we have put some millions of new jobs out there in the last couple of years, three years so, you know, i think that's what's dispositive when people go to the election -- when they go to the polling booth i think they ask the question, are things better? yes, they are. slowly but surely. >> terrific conversation, gentlemen. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thanks. >>> also news this morning, gas prices in california record highs today. third day in a row. overnight the average up a penny to $4.67 a gallon and the governor brown ordered regulators to allow winter blend gasoline sold earlier to increase the supply and lower prices by an estimated 15 to 20 cents a gallon. >>> the number of people infected with a rare form of fun gal meningitis is going up. the cdc says 91 confirmed in 9 states. seven people died. the massachusetts pharmacy that makes the steroid linked to the outbreak issued a recall of
i was here in the senate when president obama took over. we were in an unbelievable deep hole and i think things are beginning to improve. we have put some millions of new jobs out there in the last couple of years, three years so, you know, i think that's what's dispositive when people go to the election -- when they go to the polling booth i think they ask the question, are things better? yes, they are. slowly but surely. >> terrific conversation, gentlemen. thank you so much. >>...
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you learned to argue really well and make your points years ago. >> michelle obama and ann romney with advice for their husbands. the first lady will campaign for her husband this afternoon in nevada. meantime, ann romney campaigned in the state yesterday where she tried to appeal to women voters. that as our battleground state polling shows today that president obama has lost support. just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among women voters in ohio and virginia. joining me now -- the sight of tonight's debate. it's great to have you here. showing president obama losing support with women voters. why do you think that might be the the case there? >> i think that women voters are looking at mitt romney's policies and they're realizing that they're not good for women. economic policies. the health care policies. family planning. in florida, of course, medicare's a big issue. women really want to look at candidates that are going to support issues that help women and families and that's what's going on. i think in florida and around
you learned to argue really well and make your points years ago. >> michelle obama and ann romney with advice for their husbands. the first lady will campaign for her husband this afternoon in nevada. meantime, ann romney campaigned in the state yesterday where she tried to appeal to women voters. that as our battleground state polling shows today that president obama has lost support. just three points down from 12 last month. however, the president still holds formidable leads among...
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the first time president obama and mitt romney have met in person in five years. tonight of course, they will share the stage in denver. a coin toss decided the order. president obama speaks first, mitt romney will have the last word. romney ran the gauntlet during the primary. he did 23 debates. the president has practiced five mock debates before tonight and it's not too late to convince voters, there's a new poll, florida and virginia virtually tied. in ohio, the president has a comfortable seven-point lead. last night, conservatives started circulating this video. a 2007 speech that then senator obama gave at hampton university, criticizing the federal response to hurricane katrina. >> people ask me whether they thought race was the reason the response was so slow. well, no, this information was color blind in its incompetence. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been bur
the first time president obama and mitt romney have met in person in five years. tonight of course, they will share the stage in denver. a coin toss decided the order. president obama speaks first, mitt romney will have the last word. romney ran the gauntlet during the primary. he did 23 debates. the president has practiced five mock debates before tonight and it's not too late to convince voters, there's a new poll, florida and virginia virtually tied. in ohio, the president has a comfortable...
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first of all, for two years, president obama cut support of u.s. assistance for democracy and civil society in egypt, so those who went to tahrir square saw that the united states wasn't on their side. that was a mistake. two, when the revolt began, joe biden said that mubarak was a democrat. the secretary of state said we're with him and he's a reformer. by the time the u.s. took its position, the demonstrators had been in tahrir square for days, there had been police crackdowns and when we said it was time for mubarak to go, the the reformers had been begun to be crowded out by extremist elements. yes, there's a big difference between anticipating and leading versus not leading, reacting, cutting our traditional support for democracy. that's the record of president obama and that contributed to the mess. >> so, you're saying he should have pushed mubarak out, but done it differently or he shouldn't have done that? >> the people in a country, reagan once said that we should support the march of freedom, but we can't determine its pace. the people
first of all, for two years, president obama cut support of u.s. assistance for democracy and civil society in egypt, so those who went to tahrir square saw that the united states wasn't on their side. that was a mistake. two, when the revolt began, joe biden said that mubarak was a democrat. the secretary of state said we're with him and he's a reformer. by the time the u.s. took its position, the demonstrators had been in tahrir square for days, there had been police crackdowns and when we...
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a key voting block for president obama. what's your reaction to hearing the ohio secretary of state's appeal is going to go down to the supreme court? >> politically obscene. here we are in the greatest democracy in the history of the planet and instead of us trying to encourage greater participation in the political process, there is an all-out effort to frustrate voters to try to discourage voters from voting. and i think that -- as we -- realize how important ohio is to the selection of the next president of the united states, you are going to see more and more efforts in ohio to discourage voters. and it is -- it is -- there's nothing that's ever happened to justify this. look, in the -- state of missouri where i am, and -- in 2000, there were six substantiated cases of voter fraud. six. and four of them were double votes. there was nothing concerning an i.d., nothing an i.d. would have prevent. >> sir, did you hear the interview i did with sean spicer of the rmr? did you hear he was offended i even asked about why they
a key voting block for president obama. what's your reaction to hearing the ohio secretary of state's appeal is going to go down to the supreme court? >> politically obscene. here we are in the greatest democracy in the history of the planet and instead of us trying to encourage greater participation in the political process, there is an all-out effort to frustrate voters to try to discourage voters from voting. and i think that -- as we -- realize how important ohio is to the selection...
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i don't know a single small businessman or woman who believes that the next four years under obama will be good. i don't know a single small businessman or woman who expects to hire a lot more people if obama wins the election. i travel a lot. these are not conspiracy theories. they get up every day and look at taxes and what is the cost of the health insurance and the market going to be like. and they are all overwhelmly -- they have surveyed their members. >> i want to advance this from the economy to the aftermath of the debate. the cover of the noe"the new yo mitt romney eastwooding, debating an empty chair. simple question. what happened? this couldn't have been the game plan for this president to go in and by all accounts underperform against a guy whose back was against the wall, who faced a make or break debate. >> look, david, it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because as i said earlier we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from
i don't know a single small businessman or woman who believes that the next four years under obama will be good. i don't know a single small businessman or woman who expects to hire a lot more people if obama wins the election. i travel a lot. these are not conspiracy theories. they get up every day and look at taxes and what is the cost of the health insurance and the market going to be like. and they are all overwhelmly -- they have surveyed their members. >> i want to advance this from...
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but four years ago obama got to run saying, they drove it into the ditch, i can drive it out. then it turns out he can't. now the next guy gets to say, i can drive it out. he also can't drive it out, but this is the ritual every four oh eight years as someone promises they are the special healer who can put their hands on the economy and make it all right again. >> i i think megan is gliding past the problem. this is an illustration of the problem. you can glide past alan west, donald trump, a lot of the people mitt romney who wants to be president has chosen to deeply associate and work with and legitimize. that tells us who he wants to be with as he chose them for the cabinet and everything else. liberals said for a long time that's an issue with how we measure this. that's in the two surveys. but the point is they are alleging another con spir p si to rile people up with lies. that's the problem. >> this is true. it's crazy to suggest anyone manage -- first of all, these are people who think everything in government is like the d mrk v. it's crazy to suggest they can manage
but four years ago obama got to run saying, they drove it into the ditch, i can drive it out. then it turns out he can't. now the next guy gets to say, i can drive it out. he also can't drive it out, but this is the ritual every four oh eight years as someone promises they are the special healer who can put their hands on the economy and make it all right again. >> i i think megan is gliding past the problem. this is an illustration of the problem. you can glide past alan west, donald...
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i don't know a single small businessman or woman, who believes the next four years under obama will be good. i don't know a single small businessman who expects to hire a lot more people if obama wins the election. i travel a lot. these are not conspiracy theories or right-wingers, people look at how are they going do pay their taxes, what's the market going to be like? they're all overwhelmingly, look at the national federation of independent businesses, they go out and survey their members. >> i want to bring this advance this from the economy to the aftermath of the debate. the new cover of the new yorker gets a laugh and makes a serious point at the same time as we put it up on the screen and that is governor romney debating a chair. eastwooding in effect. robert gibbs, before i get hilary's take on this, simple question -- what happened? this couldn't have been the game plan for this president to go in and by all accounts, underperform against a guy whose back was against a wall, who faced a make-or-break debate. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappo
i don't know a single small businessman or woman, who believes the next four years under obama will be good. i don't know a single small businessman who expects to hire a lot more people if obama wins the election. i travel a lot. these are not conspiracy theories or right-wingers, people look at how are they going do pay their taxes, what's the market going to be like? they're all overwhelmingly, look at the national federation of independent businesses, they go out and survey their members....
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throughout this election year we've watched president obama and governor romney's campaigns carefully craft a message on who exactly their candidate is and what makes them tick. well, a pbs frontline documentary airing tonight is breaking through the talking points to find out what made these two presidential candidates the men they are in the words of their friends, family, enemies, and the reporters who have covered them. let's watch. >> he is a pragmatic business person. he's a guy who likes to take apart a problem and figure out how to get it fixed. >> barack obama is a fascinating mixture of boldness and caution but then once he makes a decision, it's usually the bold one. >> mitt romney has been accused of flip-flopping, but on mormonism he will never flip-flop. >> and yet in politics he has often tried to keep that part of him behind the curtain. >> the backlash against his presidency must be mystifying to him because he genuinely doesn't see himself as a radical. >> well, with us right now is michael kirk producer of "frontline: the choice 2012." congratulations it will be fab
throughout this election year we've watched president obama and governor romney's campaigns carefully craft a message on who exactly their candidate is and what makes them tick. well, a pbs frontline documentary airing tonight is breaking through the talking points to find out what made these two presidential candidates the men they are in the words of their friends, family, enemies, and the reporters who have covered them. let's watch. >> he is a pragmatic business person. he's a guy who...
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i missed you all these last two years? >> we're back and that was, of course, bill clinton last night in las vegas giving president obama a helping hand. ever since the democratic convention last month, the former president has shown why politicians of all stripes show -- obama doesn't have a better ally out there working the trail for him. in fact, let's listen to more of what the big dog, as we say, had to say about romney's debate performance. performance. take a look. >> it was like one of these bain capital deals where he's the closer. so he shows up, tell me what i'm supposed to say the close. now, the problem with this deal is, the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that was how he described himself, for two whole years. until three or four days before the debate, they all got together and say, hey, man, this ship is sinking faster than the "titanic." but people are still frustrated about the economy. they want it fixed yesterday. so just show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said
i missed you all these last two years? >> we're back and that was, of course, bill clinton last night in las vegas giving president obama a helping hand. ever since the democratic convention last month, the former president has shown why politicians of all stripes show -- obama doesn't have a better ally out there working the trail for him. in fact, let's listen to more of what the big dog, as we say, had to say about romney's debate performance. performance. take a look. >> it was...
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running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it. color lock technology. exclusively from your benjamin moore retailer. find your perfect color with a buy one, get one pint offer. visit benjaminmoore.com/promo. >>> well, mitt romney is not backing off of his attacks of president obama's economic policies, no matter what the latest jobs report says. he told a florida crowd last night that the president is
running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his...
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president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to protect our interests and those of the allies in the region. >> let me ask about syria. i wasn't sure if governor romney is saying he would have u.s. heavy weapons arms directly to the rebels or he would work through the saudis or others in the region who want to arm the rebels. how is he different. >> what governor romney said is if we don't reach out and find the responsible and moderate forces within the opposition movement, they would be left stranded alone and isolated -- >> hillary clinton had meeting after meeting -- you know the secretary of
president obama's foreign policy in the middle east. at one point some two dozen capitols, storming embassies. iran closer to a nuclear bomb. you were talking about the bloodshed in syria. what governor romney is saying is rather than make analysis of tactical developments we have to step back and say had the administration been an observer of events rather than a shaper of them. has their foreign policy which had us taking a back step. we talk about a pivot to asia, diminished our policy to...
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i missed you all these last two years? >> we're back and that was, of course, bill clinton last night in las vegas giving president obama a helping hand. ever since the democratic convention last month, the former president has shown why politicians of all stripes show -- obama doesn't have a better ally that he doesn't hav better ally out there working the trail for him. let's listen. >> he shows up, doesn't really know much about the deal and the problem with this deal is, the deal was made by severe kochb serve tif men. that was how he described himself for two whole years until three or four days before the debate they all got together and said, hey, man, this ship is sinking faster than a titanic but people are still frustrated about the economy, they want to fix yesterday. so just show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. i don't have that tax plan. you want to believe me, your lying eyes here. come on. >> the obama campaign wants to use more of the big dog and less of
i missed you all these last two years? >> we're back and that was, of course, bill clinton last night in las vegas giving president obama a helping hand. ever since the democratic convention last month, the former president has shown why politicians of all stripes show -- obama doesn't have a better ally that he doesn't hav better ally out there working the trail for him. let's listen. >> he shows up, doesn't really know much about the deal and the problem with this deal is, the...
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first of all, for two years president obama cut support of u.s. assistance for democracy in civil society in egypt. so those who eventually went to tahrir square saw that the united states wasn't on their side. that was a mistake. there's a big difference between anticipating and leading versus not leading, reacting, cutting our traditional support for democracy. that's the record of president obama. that contributed it to the mess. >> you say he should have pushed mubarak out and done it differently or shouldn't have done it? >> ronald reagan once said to support the march of freedom, but we can't determine the pace. the people in the country determine the pace of the march of freedom. it's humorous to suggest we could do this. >> can you make an assertion but no answer. that seemed to happen in that exchan exchange. >> if anyone doubts foreign policy and who advises candidates doesn't matter, they have to watch that video. this is the stakes at hand. there's two ways to look at this, i think. on the policy side governor romney's critiques are wr
first of all, for two years president obama cut support of u.s. assistance for democracy in civil society in egypt. so those who eventually went to tahrir square saw that the united states wasn't on their side. that was a mistake. there's a big difference between anticipating and leading versus not leading, reacting, cutting our traditional support for democracy. that's the record of president obama. that contributed it to the mess. >> you say he should have pushed mubarak out and done it...
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now, it claimed to 10% in october of that year before then starting to fall. last month unemployment dropping among adult men and women and also in teens, but it's still a whopping 23.7% for that last group. now, here is how we break it down. it dropped among whites, african-americans, hispanics, and asians, but unemployment among african-americans and hispanics remains well above the national average. joining me now is cbs contributor ron insana who is also host of a syndicated radio program called the market scoreboard report and with us from waution, jared bernstein, former economist for joe biden. it's good to have you here. jared, i start with you. as we look at these numbers, is this a true game changer for the president? >> it certainly helps. i mean, this month's decline in the unemployment rate that you have been talking about from 8.1% down to 7.8%, that's the good kind of decline in unemployment because it came from a lot more people getting jobs. if you recall back last month, i was sitting in this chair telling you that the decline in unemployment
now, it claimed to 10% in october of that year before then starting to fall. last month unemployment dropping among adult men and women and also in teens, but it's still a whopping 23.7% for that last group. now, here is how we break it down. it dropped among whites, african-americans, hispanics, and asians, but unemployment among african-americans and hispanics remains well above the national average. joining me now is cbs contributor ron insana who is also host of a syndicated radio program...
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. >> what would drive obama crazy? >> these broad stroke indictments of the last four years -- >> bob, it's something truly serious tonight, it could get ugly. we're hearing all this stuff leaking from the romney camp how he's going to hit him on dishonesty. i don't know how somebody stands on a platform and let them go across with broadsides about integrity being dishonesty. how does he deal with it, if it comes? >> he just answers it honestly. he's come a long way since that debate where he told hillary clinton she was nice enough. he'll be very contained, very self-controlled and i suspect very presidential. my guess is that's part of the whole preparation process the president's gone through. he's not going to let mitt romney get under his skin because he's very conscience of the fact that that would represent a victory for romney. that would become the story of the debate, much as al gore's size became the story of the 2000 debate. >> the bridge of size. thank you. thank you very much. as we go to break, new poll
. >> what would drive obama crazy? >> these broad stroke indictments of the last four years -- >> bob, it's something truly serious tonight, it could get ugly. we're hearing all this stuff leaking from the romney camp how he's going to hit him on dishonesty. i don't know how somebody stands on a platform and let them go across with broadsides about integrity being dishonesty. how does he deal with it, if it comes? >> he just answers it honestly. he's come a long way...
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he's taken us forward from the bush years. we don't want to go back to the policies that got us to this point in the first place. when mitt romney said he wanted detroit to go bankrupt let the auto industry go bankrupt, our people heard that. one of eight jobs in ohio are connected to the auto industry and all the related industry that is feed into it. >> congresswoman marcy kaptur and catherine crier, i have to leave it there. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> is paul ryan starting to feel the heed? just two days before his do-or-die showdown with joe biden. check this out. >> by kiting taxes, with the big tax cut? >> those are yours, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. >> yeah take off that microphone. good luck trying that with joe biden on thursday. >>> plus big bird is still flying high and there are signs now that the great yellow friend is getting under mitt romney's skin. >>> and the inside story of the family intervention inside the romney campaign. it's a real shocker,
he's taken us forward from the bush years. we don't want to go back to the policies that got us to this point in the first place. when mitt romney said he wanted detroit to go bankrupt let the auto industry go bankrupt, our people heard that. one of eight jobs in ohio are connected to the auto industry and all the related industry that is feed into it. >> congresswoman marcy kaptur and catherine crier, i have to leave it there. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you....
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. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on what the policy will be. >> you're not turkish are you? >> no. >> i've been in health care for 37 years as a provider and i am completely 100% for the affordable health care act. thank you president obama. >> i just want to know what we're going to do about the student's act. >> what percentage do you pay in interest? >> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know w
. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on...
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>> jonathan, real quick, this was a speech rife from specifics everything from building 15 ships a year and three submarines to requiring nato allies to commit 2% of gdp to security. there were some specifics in in speech. >> there were definitely some specifics. i don't mean to say there weren't. i think it's difficult also as a challenge to get to this place where you can criticize the president effectively by laying out your own plans without going so far as to be, you know, helpful to america's enemies. i think it's a difficult game to play. there were certain things i heard. for instance, in libya he said that he believed that the best course for the united states was to continue to help the libyans with their self-governance and pursue the people that killed our ambassador. i don't think you would hear anything different from barack obama on that or anybody in this administration in terms of what their goals are there. i think in terms of taking actions and not just having words against iran, i'm not sure that that's a whole lot different than what you see if our government now be
>> jonathan, real quick, this was a speech rife from specifics everything from building 15 ships a year and three submarines to requiring nato allies to commit 2% of gdp to security. there were some specifics in in speech. >> there were definitely some specifics. i don't mean to say there weren't. i think it's difficult also as a challenge to get to this place where you can criticize the president effectively by laying out your own plans without going so far as to be, you know,...
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. >> we watched president obama for 3 hchl years. i don't think he's governed in a race this way at all. i think that was going to be an issue. should have been an issue in '08. does anyone think president obama is more towards one race? i don't think so. >> roger rails would like to see you in his office. joining us right now, let's get to our panel here in denver, mike shira, "time" magazine, white house correspondent, who has the cover story in this week's issue. john harwood, cnbc chief white house correspondent, and holding it down in new york city, msnbc political analyst karen finney. john, are you there in the spin room. as you know, the spinning begins before either candidate has spoken. we've seen both parties attempt to deflate expectations. but isn't the biggest challenge for mitt romney, not what he plans to say tonight, but how he explains what he's already said, in particular, his derision for 47% of the people in this country? >> reporter: certainly, martin, he's going to have to address that and try to diffuse that i
. >> we watched president obama for 3 hchl years. i don't think he's governed in a race this way at all. i think that was going to be an issue. should have been an issue in '08. does anyone think president obama is more towards one race? i don't think so. >> roger rails would like to see you in his office. joining us right now, let's get to our panel here in denver, mike shira, "time" magazine, white house correspondent, who has the cover story in this week's issue. john...
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it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there and i think most of us agree that really, they've both got good ideas and great candidates but what it comes down to is, which plan the is better for america. ultimately, i'm leaning towards romney but there's still a couple more debates left and -- >> keira you said you don't have enough information. you're a kindergarten teacher here in the denver area. not enough information? there's so much out there. we've been campaigning for a year. >> finding the information that youch can connect with and the information that you can and i'm still looking for that. >> chris, wh
it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there...
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this was the case back four years ago too. why the obama campaign laughed so much when the biden campaign was doing their -- debate prep in this perfectly sealed environment, they would look on tv and see sarah palin standing out by a stream in arizona or a rock and tree and these guys cannot be serious. >> it also -- they can't use the altitude defense that al gore was offering the president, the air was too thin up there, and he wasn't used to it. anyway, after the break, the national rifle association dips its toe into the attack ad waters taking on president obama, but while groups like the nra and their endorsements and dollars to the presidential campaign are donating their dollars to the presidential campaign, the more influential cash may be flowing down ballot. we will look at the big spenders next on "now." gecko (clearing throat) thank you, mr. speaker, uh, members of congress. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as most of you know it. ...i propose savings for e
this was the case back four years ago too. why the obama campaign laughed so much when the biden campaign was doing their -- debate prep in this perfectly sealed environment, they would look on tv and see sarah palin standing out by a stream in arizona or a rock and tree and these guys cannot be serious. >> it also -- they can't use the altitude defense that al gore was offering the president, the air was too thin up there, and he wasn't used to it. anyway, after the break, the national...
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and cookie monsters, which is why you don't see obama getting a big bird bounce." [ coughs ] ♪ you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. [ snores ] vicks nyquil. powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ if you can't take a sick day, here's a cold hard fact. alka-seltzer plus cold & cough may cause marked drowsiness. try dayquil cold and flu for non-drowsy relief of these symptoms. so you can save the day, not worry about falling asleep. [ laughter ] we create easy to...
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he's a 40-year veteran, and he's going to be a capable debater. when joe biden was debating in '87 and '88 when he ran for president the first time, paul ryan was in high school. so there's going to be, i think, a fascinating age gap there on that stage. joe biden is not somebody that's going to come out there and sort of stumble around. it's possible he could commit a gaffe, but the ryan folks that i talked to are getting ready for, you know, the chairman of the foreign relations committee, not the gaffe-prone sort of lampooned joe biden. >> do you think they might take a stick at him and taunt him? even little ryan doing that, like how is neil kinnock doing, speaking of the '87 race? your thoughts, joan? can you gig him? >> i doubt it. that's a little dangerous. the vice president's gaffes when he makes them tends to come before really friendly crowds where he gets excited and -- they don't come on the debating stage. he's got great mastery of the facts, and he's also got -- you know, he's got a winning personality. certainly anything can happen
he's a 40-year veteran, and he's going to be a capable debater. when joe biden was debating in '87 and '88 when he ran for president the first time, paul ryan was in high school. so there's going to be, i think, a fascinating age gap there on that stage. joe biden is not somebody that's going to come out there and sort of stumble around. it's possible he could commit a gaffe, but the ryan folks that i talked to are getting ready for, you know, the chairman of the foreign relations committee,...
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obama and his liberal allies, we can't afford four more years. i'm mitt romney. i approved this message. >> well, yesterday campaigning in council bluffs, iowa, vice president joe biden shot back saying the obama plan would raise taxes but not on the middle class. >> on top of the $1 trillion in spending we've already cut, we're going to ask, yes, we're going to ask the wealthy to pay more. my heartbreaks. come on. [ applause ] you know the phrase they always use, "obama and biden want to raise taxes by $1 trillion." guess what? yes, we do, in one regard. we want to let that $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. that's not a tax raise. that's called fairness where i come from. >> vice president biden, congressman paul ryan are prepping if for their own debate next thursday at center college in danville, kentucky. >>> the united nations security council is condemning the shelling by syrian forces in a turkey down that killed women and children. turkey's military responded with artil
obama and his liberal allies, we can't afford four more years. i'm mitt romney. i approved this message. >> well, yesterday campaigning in council bluffs, iowa, vice president joe biden shot back saying the obama plan would raise taxes but not on the middle class. >> on top of the $1 trillion in spending we've already cut, we're going to ask, yes, we're going to ask the wealthy to pay more. my heartbreaks. come on. [ applause ] you know the phrase they always use, "obama and...
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it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the gravitas of being the president of the united states facing off against some non-president who wants their job. that only happens once per president. and these are the only times that has happened on tv in our nation's history. that's it. and this is the situation that president obama found himself in last night. it's only happened six other times in american history. so how did he do in historical context? there isn't that much historical context, right? like, this is a very knowable thing. honestly, that first one, that first one in 1976 where incumbent president gerald ford faced off against challenger jimmy carter, honestly, this one shouldn't even really count as part of the context like the rest of them because this one
it's only these years right here. that's it. now, by definition, you never have an incumbent president in this situation more than once. presidents can only serve two terms so there's only one opportunity when they carry into that debate, when they're running for re-election, they carry into that debate the gravitas of being the president of the united states facing off against some non-president who wants their job. that only happens once per president. and these are the only times that has...
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ryan's been selling the nra's conspiracy theory for years. he happily campaigns with people like wayne laughair who thinks the president is one election away from shutting down every gun shop in this country. >> if president obama is reelected, we'll see an anti-freedom rampage in this country like we have never seen before. >> a rampage. the nra is repeating this story in their new campaign ad. they are spending more than $1 million on air time. the ad is running in four swing states. here in florida, ohio, virginia, and wisconsin. there have been mass shootings in all four of those states recently. wisconsin is still reeling from the temple shooting in august. meanwhile, the nra says the president of the united states hasn't taken away guns because he's waiting for his second term and that's when he's going to do it? it will be interesting to see if voters believe this fairy tale. by the admission of the vice presidential candidate for the republicans, barack obama has not offered up any new gun legislation. but it cuts to the cultural issu
ryan's been selling the nra's conspiracy theory for years. he happily campaigns with people like wayne laughair who thinks the president is one election away from shutting down every gun shop in this country. >> if president obama is reelected, we'll see an anti-freedom rampage in this country like we have never seen before. >> a rampage. the nra is repeating this story in their new campaign ad. they are spending more than $1 million on air time. the ad is running in four swing...
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i'm not giving up the if the lies and propaganda of the last four years work after obama fought back solidly against them. then reality-based government is over in the can you understand again and we're back to bush cheney but more extreme. it's one debate, but it was one debate with 70 million more people, more eyes on that debate than any speech that we could carry on all of cable neuews combined, then any radio program or twitter account could get. >> it is one debate that was heavily tuned in. perhaps the second presidential debate maybe double. nevertheless it's not just one debate. >> it's one debate that is very visible but a different mitt romney shows up. obama just let that happen. mitt romney showed up and he seemed like an energetic guy to fix things. obama showed up and looked tired and listless and he didn't challenge mitt romney on his extreme positions or on the extreme positions of the republican party including his running mate. >> i always lover yo your insig. we're past the debate but still at that same conversation even with democrats still talking about the deba
i'm not giving up the if the lies and propaganda of the last four years work after obama fought back solidly against them. then reality-based government is over in the can you understand again and we're back to bush cheney but more extreme. it's one debate, but it was one debate with 70 million more people, more eyes on that debate than any speech that we could carry on all of cable neuews combined, then any radio program or twitter account could get. >> it is one debate that was heavily...
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has to have obama re-elected this year. his ticket is to be the loyal vice president, have the second term go well. a 60% approval rating. the continuity becomes the argument and democrats want to reward the loyalty. you're right, we said in the run up to 2008 that hillary clinton was the most dominant front-runner in politics. that had nothing on what we should be if she decided to run in 2016. >> can i just -- no. i got to tell you. you know, i know she's enormously popular right now but it's because she's not running. i mean, it's not that hard to be that popular. >> but a lot of democrats are saying, wait a minute, she literally got shafted in 2008. this is not fair. this is her turn and thus -- look, this is -- >> they're saying, she's been a loyal soldier for the last eight years, quote-unquote. she has to run. >> i said it in '08. i'll say it in '16. it is not a place for loyalty or for mrs. clinton. it is an indication about one's own ability. i think she's fantastic. i really do. i also think that american voters d
has to have obama re-elected this year. his ticket is to be the loyal vice president, have the second term go well. a 60% approval rating. the continuity becomes the argument and democrats want to reward the loyalty. you're right, we said in the run up to 2008 that hillary clinton was the most dominant front-runner in politics. that had nothing on what we should be if she decided to run in 2016. >> can i just -- no. i got to tell you. you know, i know she's enormously popular right now...
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they are going to turn agast him to make sure president obama isot reelected. you goto admit looks pretty strong in thpolls, some of these billioires are beginning whine a little bit. they d't le the environment what's happening. here's sam z >> how the, quote, 1% or t 10%, the top earners mov ahead of everydy. i wonder i coation between while they were mg ahead, the rest of the govement wassidizing, bsidizing more m people. i inthey are disinnte vised byf you dot pay fo that's thing you dot ve to worr about. >> he sounds le he could b sittinat mitt ey his disdain of the 47% is the same as mitt romy' he'sot the only algart complaining. leon cooperman, this hedge fund manager and former obama suorter, sd this, you know, the largest and greatest country in t free world put a 47-year-old guy at nev made himarge of the free and rld. not totay different from taking adolph hier in germany d ng him in charge of germany because people were is absolutely ssatisfied. pulsive. what arese billionaire upt about? the stk market is up or 100% since 2009. corporate profits ara
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. >> four years ago president obama said if you don't have a record to run on, you make a big election about small things. is that what he is doing with big bird? >> you know, i think one of the most important points about big bird, it relates to the wall street comment. if you really are going to make a dent in deficit reduction you don't pick on things like big bird. you pick on big things like tax cuts for multimillionaires. and -- so -- no, i don't think it is an irrelevant point but i agree we ought to be talking about what the next four years will bring because it looks like romney administration would just be one big surprise party. we have no idea what that is going to be like. so -- but i think the president and the vice president really do need to give the american people a clear sense of where they want to go. >> well, let's talk about that reset because, obviously the president did take a hit in the debate. and there have been a lot of headlines about worried democrats. do you think he needed to make the adjustments? we are hearing about it in his campaign. if he needs to d
. >> four years ago president obama said if you don't have a record to run on, you make a big election about small things. is that what he is doing with big bird? >> you know, i think one of the most important points about big bird, it relates to the wall street comment. if you really are going to make a dent in deficit reduction you don't pick on things like big bird. you pick on big things like tax cuts for multimillionaires. and -- so -- no, i don't think it is an irrelevant...
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and remained as high as president obama was in office, unemployment would be much higher and late last night advisers pointing out a large uptick in part-time work as being part of this number, which i suspect will be part of the attack lines in the comes days. as for the conspiracy theory, they're going to deal with the numbers as they exist, say advisers, but didn't go out of the way, that the conspiracy theorists are wrong. they're leaving those fires rage on the right for a little longer. >> yeah. okay. well, that's not unexpected. thank you very much for that report. >>> moving on to a victory for the obama campaign on early voting in ohio. a federal appeals court in the buckeye start reinstated early voten ot final three days before election day meaning that people in the key battleground can continue to cast ballots depending on the decision of their local board of elections. the obama camp filed that lawsuit arguing that everyone should have a chance to vote on those days. >>> nbc news senior political director mark murray joins me. a very good morning to you. >> good morning.
and remained as high as president obama was in office, unemployment would be much higher and late last night advisers pointing out a large uptick in part-time work as being part of this number, which i suspect will be part of the attack lines in the comes days. as for the conspiracy theory, they're going to deal with the numbers as they exist, say advisers, but didn't go out of the way, that the conspiracy theorists are wrong. they're leaving those fires rage on the right for a little longer....
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i think the notion of the pivot which president obama's talked about the pivot to the pacific has been generally thought of as the way forward and the coming 20 years so it's hard to see where governor romney ends up on providing new alternatives. one thing sort of surprised me why hasn't he played general eisenhower, vote for me, i'll end the war in afghanistan as opposed to korea? so the notion that an aggressive approach to the war in afghanistan i think is weakest thought of all. >> certainly the message that they're trying to evoke today is peace through strength. there's governor bob mcdonald speaking before mitt romney. one thing to check in on is how the others on the ticket are doing and more developing news to discuss with vice presidential nominee paul ryan to talk to voters in the northwestern ohio town of swanton. it's swing for the republican ticket looking to make gains in the all-important battleground state of ohio and point out early voting is under way. ron motte joins me now from telephone. what are we expecting today? >> reporter: there, thomas. probably a few minu
i think the notion of the pivot which president obama's talked about the pivot to the pacific has been generally thought of as the way forward and the coming 20 years so it's hard to see where governor romney ends up on providing new alternatives. one thing sort of surprised me why hasn't he played general eisenhower, vote for me, i'll end the war in afghanistan as opposed to korea? so the notion that an aggressive approach to the war in afghanistan i think is weakest thought of all. >>...
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team tried to frame the election around last year and hope won. they're doing it again this year, the romney team is sort of playing into their hands in terms of making this about fear, fear about your religion being taken away, fear of unrest, fear of -- i guess they haven't quite played the gay marriage card yet, but they are basically saying like things are going to get worse, if you don't vote for us things will get worse, whereas the obama team says we think we can do this. we hope you believe us. please vote with us and we're going to make this better. and i do wonder which is going to work the best. i mean, we see some small upticks in optimism about the country. maybe that's a good thing for obama, but, you know, fear is not necessarily a losing card to play, and definitely they have doubled down on it and here i'm continuing to just go with metaphors as strong as i can. sorry. >> those are perfect. thank you both. >>> next, big bird shows us why debates really do matter. stay with us. >> we think he's probably going to come at me like a c
team tried to frame the election around last year and hope won. they're doing it again this year, the romney team is sort of playing into their hands in terms of making this about fear, fear about your religion being taken away, fear of unrest, fear of -- i guess they haven't quite played the gay marriage card yet, but they are basically saying like things are going to get worse, if you don't vote for us things will get worse, whereas the obama team says we think we can do this. we hope you...
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later, his first national debate, so to speak, came against president obama at the house republican conference retreat in 2010. >> i serve as a ranking member of the budget committee. the spending bills that you have signed into law, the domestic discretionary spending has been increased by 84%. >> the obama campaign hopes he gets lost in the weeds and that biden can cut through the numbers and have a break through moment. >> and i was trying to get this discussion about entitlements in our debt crisis at an adult level. >> an adult level conversation to invest social security in wall street. if that had happened in the last couple of years paul, it would have ended the protection that people have in the twilight of their life, as you know it. >> they have the option of having the same -- >> your social security is the same as everybody else's in the entire country and you know it. >> expect more smiles than eye rolling -- when he gave the president a six-minute lecture that quickly went viral. >> the senate budget committee chairman said that this is a ponzi scheme that would make
later, his first national debate, so to speak, came against president obama at the house republican conference retreat in 2010. >> i serve as a ranking member of the budget committee. the spending bills that you have signed into law, the domestic discretionary spending has been increased by 84%. >> the obama campaign hopes he gets lost in the weeds and that biden can cut through the numbers and have a break through moment. >> and i was trying to get this discussion about...
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, and that is president obama. once they get over, thomas, the dazzle of the debate. we need to put that behind us and we're going to move forward. it is the president that is pushing policies that will allow the middle class and poor folks to thrive, to get over. >> romney has reinvested in the state of ohio with ads specifically targeted to ohioans. take a look at this. >> the question ohio families are asking is who can bring back the jobs? under president obama, we've lost over 500,000 manufacturing jobs. >> so, "the new york times" reporting today, senator, that the romney camp going after ohio with this new intensity, this new investment that they feel that they can get those people to come over to their team, especially after that solid performance at the debate. do you think, though, that mitt romney can make inroads talking about manufacturing with the unemployment rate now nationally below 7.8% and the fact that president obama was able to save the car manufacturing industry? >> i don't think so. if you t
, and that is president obama. once they get over, thomas, the dazzle of the debate. we need to put that behind us and we're going to move forward. it is the president that is pushing policies that will allow the middle class and poor folks to thrive, to get over. >> romney has reinvested in the state of ohio with ads specifically targeted to ohioans. take a look at this. >> the question ohio families are asking is who can bring back the jobs? under president obama, we've lost over...
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mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> two years ago the tea party rolled into washington, confident, they were pushing their far right agenda. they strutted. they bragged. they acted like they owned the joint. well, guess what? they're singing a different tune now. in fact, they're trying to hide. in a debate last night, eric cantor ran away from his own record on budget sequester, which cuts over $1 trillion from defense. >> i keep saying i support a sequester, as he knows good and well that's not true. he knows that the president insisted of its insertion into the debt ceiling deal. >> blaming the president for something he supported? here's proof. right there in black and white. and 173 other republicans voted for it with him. including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you g
mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> two years ago the tea party rolled into washington, confident, they were pushing their far right agenda. they strutted. they bragged. they acted like they owned the joint. well, guess what? they're singing a different tune now. in fact, they're trying to hide. in a debate last night, eric...
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"michelle obama which is visit durango. she's expected to promote early voting there which begins in a couple of weeks. >>> from extreme eastern washington state the front page of the "moscow-pullman daily news" about how homecoming is crucial to the town of moscow idaho and the president of washington state university recommending tuition rates should not rise higher than the rate of inflation. >>> now to our weekend weather. folks in colorado dealing with the first touch of the white stuff. not much accumulation but frigid with lows falling into the 20s. nbc meteorologist stephanie abrams has news about the rest of the country. >> big changes across a big chunk of the country. there's a solid cold front. we have that rain and clouds right now extending anywhere from the northeast all the way back down to the south. that is the weathermaker. ahead of that, warm temperatures. behind it cold temperatures. take a quick screen grab of that. as i change the graphic you're going to see those temperatures in the 60s all the way u
"michelle obama which is visit durango. she's expected to promote early voting there which begins in a couple of weeks. >>> from extreme eastern washington state the front page of the "moscow-pullman daily news" about how homecoming is crucial to the town of moscow idaho and the president of washington state university recommending tuition rates should not rise higher than the rate of inflation. >>> now to our weekend weather. folks in colorado dealing with the...
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this video we have seen before, covered extensively by the media five years ago, when obama first ran for office. those details did not stop the daily caller and some others from asserting the tape would shake up the campaign. >> people ask me whether they thought raves the reason the response was so slow. i said, well, no this administration was color blind in its incompetence. but, but everyone here knows that the disaster and the poverty happened long before the hurricane hit. >> and then the "huffington post" released what they consider their own bombshell tape, showing paul ryan at what his campaign says was on open forum, this was just last year, 2011. ryan's remarks are now being compared to romney's 47% comment. >> the good news is survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> and republicans are seizing on what vice president joe biden said at a campaign event in north carolina. that set off another war of words. >> how th
this video we have seen before, covered extensively by the media five years ago, when obama first ran for office. those details did not stop the daily caller and some others from asserting the tape would shake up the campaign. >> people ask me whether they thought raves the reason the response was so slow. i said, well, no this administration was color blind in its incompetence. but, but everyone here knows that the disaster and the poverty happened long before the hurricane hit. >>...
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remember, president obama's not going to be able to make the case that he fixed everything in four years. he's not trying to do that. what he has to say is i've made progress and can make more. in order to make that argument you have to be able to show people you've made progress or at least have people believe you've made progress, movement in the right direction numbers suggest that he's making that case. >> and we also have our new telemundo/nbc news poll breaking within this hour and that shows a 50-point lead among hispanic voters. 71/21 likely voters. that is a huge lead. the question is, of course, whether there is enthusiasm among hispanic voters and whether they're going to come out and vote. >> right. and even bigger gap than 69/31 what president obama beat john mccain among latinos in 2008. look, this is a problem in this election for republicans, andrea, but a bigger problem in 2016, 2020 and beyond. the hispanic community is obviously a young community, it's a growing community, it's a community that's going to register to vote more in line with their population numbers in y
remember, president obama's not going to be able to make the case that he fixed everything in four years. he's not trying to do that. what he has to say is i've made progress and can make more. in order to make that argument you have to be able to show people you've made progress or at least have people believe you've made progress, movement in the right direction numbers suggest that he's making that case. >> and we also have our new telemundo/nbc news poll breaking within this hour and...
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and president obama was caught flat-footed, his campaign was flat-footed. we'll see if the adjustments they end up making as david axelrod promised. >> what's the early word on the vice presidential debates? you have democrats off the record worried knowing that biden could give a make moment or a break moment. >> it's most watched tv. it's important to note that paul ryan has never been on this stage before. joe biden, given he's run for president twice, including the 2008 series, has a lot of debate experience. so it's going to be interesting, and the democrats need a little bit of a boost after what happened on wednesday. >> i hope congressman ryan comes out and says, can i call you joe? for old time's sake to start it off on a humorous note. have a great weekend. >> you, too. >> we're talking about governor romney trying to turn around a rough few weeks. he had a lot of success in the debate. president obama trying to restart after the debates perhaps capitalizing on the half-good jobs report. up next, i'll talk to the editor of politogeek.com. there's
and president obama was caught flat-footed, his campaign was flat-footed. we'll see if the adjustments they end up making as david axelrod promised. >> what's the early word on the vice presidential debates? you have democrats off the record worried knowing that biden could give a make moment or a break moment. >> it's most watched tv. it's important to note that paul ryan has never been on this stage before. joe biden, given he's run for president twice, including the 2008 series,...
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for at least a few years now, we have been told how president obama is just alienating wall street. billionaires have got it so rough. they are going to turn against him to make sure president obama is not reelected. now that the election is just 35 days away and president obama, you got to admit looks pretty strong in the polls, some of these billionaires are beginning to whine a little bit. they don't like the environment of what's happening. here's sam zell, listen to this. >> how the, quote, 1% or the 10%, the top earners moved ahead of everybody. i wonder if there's any correlation between while they were moving ahead, the rest of the government was subsidizing, subsidizing more and more people. i think they are disincentive vised by if you don't pay for health care, that's another thing you don't have to worry about. >> he sounds like he could be sitting at the mitt romney fundraiser. his disdain of the 47% is the same as mitt romney's. he's not the only algart complaining. leon cooperman, this hedge fund manager and former obama supporter, said this, you know, the largest and
for at least a few years now, we have been told how president obama is just alienating wall street. billionaires have got it so rough. they are going to turn against him to make sure president obama is not reelected. now that the election is just 35 days away and president obama, you got to admit looks pretty strong in the polls, some of these billionaires are beginning to whine a little bit. they don't like the environment of what's happening. here's sam zell, listen to this. >> how the,...
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it's not just president obama. research shows that stress does not affect when or how fast your hair turns gray. what does? it's my must-read and up on our facebook page at facebook.com/jansingco. ll come . delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> the presidential candidates are prepping for tomorrow's big debate. joe biden in north carolina and paul ryan on a bus tour in iowa. last night he was in dubuque. the first time at a public campaign event he delivered this line. >> the choice is clear, and here is what we are doing. we are entering the debate phase, the choice phase of this campaign. this choice is ever so clear. >> speaking of choice, has mitt romney's choice of paul ryan paid off? let's ask republican strategist and former gingrich campaign senior advisor david winston and nbc latino contributor, a senior fellow at the university of texas. good morning to both of you. will mitt romney have to and be able to defend p
it's not just president obama. research shows that stress does not affect when or how fast your hair turns gray. what does? it's my must-read and up on our facebook page at facebook.com/jansingco. ll come . delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> the presidential candidates are prepping for tomorrow's big debate. joe biden in north carolina and paul ryan on a bus tour in iowa. last night he was in...
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year after year. it's the reason why we don't have customers. we have members. american express. welcome in. >>> good morning from new york, i'm chris hayes. president obama returns to los angeles today for a celebrity studded concert and fund-raiser. venezuelan president hugo chavez goes to the polls there. joining me, we have congressman peter welch, a democrat from vermont. chris rabb author of "invisible capital." author of "entrepreneurial nation" and former deputy assistant secretary in the obama department and my colleague, j.j. ramberg author of "its your business" and host of msnbcs "your business." it's great to have you here. thank you, good to be here. >> if there has been one hero of this presidential election, it has been the mythic small businessman. republicans dedicated their entire con vens with we built this. democrats touted how their policies would help small businesses. it was on display in wednesday night's presidential debate when the words small business were mentioned over 25 times. >> we are helping small businesses. >> champion small businesses. the nu
year after year. it's the reason why we don't have customers. we have members. american express. welcome in. >>> good morning from new york, i'm chris hayes. president obama returns to los angeles today for a celebrity studded concert and fund-raiser. venezuelan president hugo chavez goes to the polls there. joining me, we have congressman peter welch, a democrat from vermont. chris rabb author of "invisible capital." author of "entrepreneurial nation" and former...
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as close as it's been all year. i'm a little skeptical it's tied now based on the fact that obama still seems to have a lead in the majority of swing state polls that we have seen. but romney who looked like his campaign might be dead in the water, now it's very close. maybe the debate was the october surprise. although it wouldn't be the first time a challenger did well in the first televised debate. >> what about the size and the speed of the swings that you're seeing right now? what can you tell us about the volatility in the race compared to previous elections? >> there's a lot of disagreement on the turnout model. the gallup poll has 5 points better. others have that smaller. so it seems like obama would even today win an election if everyone registered to vote turned out or certainly all adults. but based on the republican enthusiasm advantage and some democrats feeling a little disupon dend after the performance in denver last week, that alone might be enough to push romney over the top. >> the special way th
as close as it's been all year. i'm a little skeptical it's tied now based on the fact that obama still seems to have a lead in the majority of swing state polls that we have seen. but romney who looked like his campaign might be dead in the water, now it's very close. maybe the debate was the october surprise. although it wouldn't be the first time a challenger did well in the first televised debate. >> what about the size and the speed of the swings that you're seeing right now? what...
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and here's the challenge that the obama campaign knew they were confronting over the past year. it had to be all the outside republican money. the super pacs, 501 c 4s, flooding the airways and the haul of over $181 million, by the obama campaign and the dnc, it gives them the potential to almost go one-to-one parity against the romney campaign and all the republican outside groups. so this is all just about being able to be even on the tv ad wars with 30 days left in the presidential campaign. one thing worth noting on the billion dollar number, that's when you add the obama campaign and the dnc it comes to $946 million. that's how we're getting the billion figure. >> that's a staggering haul. that is an eye-popping total. paul ryan, he raised $2.8 million for the romney camp at one fundraiser yesterday i'm told. what do you know about the romney team's fundraising for september? >> we know that in addition to that ryan haul, they raised about $12 million in the 48-hour period after the debate. showing that they're online grassroots fundraising is also kicking in to high gear.
and here's the challenge that the obama campaign knew they were confronting over the past year. it had to be all the outside republican money. the super pacs, 501 c 4s, flooding the airways and the haul of over $181 million, by the obama campaign and the dnc, it gives them the potential to almost go one-to-one parity against the romney campaign and all the republican outside groups. so this is all just about being able to be even on the tv ad wars with 30 days left in the presidential campaign....
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president obama is a very gifted speaker. the man has been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater, he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> here's president obama's last word on sunday as he headed into the debate prep in nevada. >> governor romney is a good debatetor. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing and restore security for hard-working americans. that's what people are going to be listening for. that's the debate that you deserve. >> a new national washington post poll of likely voters shows president obama polling at 49% and mitt romney at 47% but among likely voters in the swing states, president obama leads mitt romney by 11 points. 52%-41%. tonight the forecast is president obama will within 320 ele electoral college votes. joining me now is steve and karen. karen, the expectation game has gotten really out of hand this time. finally chris christie, for whatever reason, just kind of gave up and
president obama is a very gifted speaker. the man has been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater, he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> here's president obama's last word on sunday as he headed into the debate prep in nevada. >> governor romney is a good debatetor. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing and...
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obama care is on my list. i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> the difference in the debate demeanor is most evident at the end during the closing statements. >> you know, four years ago we were going through a major crisis. and yet my faith and confidence in the american future is undiminished. four years ago i said i'm not a perfect man and wouldn't be a perfect president. that's a promise governor romney thinks i kept. i also promised that i would fight every single day on behalf of the american people. >> romney, a much crisper closing. >> kbrn this is bigger than an election about the two of us as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. it's an election about the course of america. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. >> romney had a bounce in his step post debate. it looked like a genuine moment on stage. romney lingered after the president left and parted with a triumphant wave. got a rousing response from relieved partisans. if romney's go
obama care is on my list. i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> the difference in the debate demeanor is most evident at the end during the closing statements. >> you know, four years ago we were going through a major crisis. and yet my faith and confidence in the american future is undiminished. four years ago i said i'm not a perfect man and wouldn't be a perfect president. that's a promise governor romney thinks i kept. i also promised that i would fight every...
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and something that barack obama has already done this year. the president of the united states has taken the time to take questions from the nickelodeon kids but mitt romney doesn't want to do it. why is mitt afraid of the nickelodeon kids? that's coming up. [ male announcer ] the 2013 smart comes with 8 airbags, a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. ♪ doing it with a cold, just not going to happen. vicks dayquil -- powerful non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs ] [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. ♪ vicks nyquil -- powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup in their arteries. so it's even more important to lower their cholesterol, and that's why, when diet and exercise alone are
and something that barack obama has already done this year. the president of the united states has taken the time to take questions from the nickelodeon kids but mitt romney doesn't want to do it. why is mitt afraid of the nickelodeon kids? that's coming up. [ male announcer ] the 2013 smart comes with 8 airbags, a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. ♪ doing it with a cold, just not...
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obama was in the middle of a sentence. mitt romney interrupted and said, you were president for four years, and the president just said, yep. didn't keep going. didn't say wait a second. i'm still talking. none of that. >> you're right. you know, when the president was looking down, this was a different thing for him, because a lot of the times he has that chin up and he's usually in control and powerful and his body language reflects that. by looking down as well as backing down from those kind of interruptions from mitt romney, and mitt romney did that all night to show how he could be aggressive and assertive and go toe to toe with this president and look presidential. romney was effective in doing that during this debate where the president -- i think his strategy was to be more likeable, and we saw that congruent in his body language, with the head tilts, which are around the idea of likability, which was a big thing toure brought up earlier at the top of the program. >> we saw a lot of the president's stress and disl
obama was in the middle of a sentence. mitt romney interrupted and said, you were president for four years, and the president just said, yep. didn't keep going. didn't say wait a second. i'm still talking. none of that. >> you're right. you know, when the president was looking down, this was a different thing for him, because a lot of the times he has that chin up and he's usually in control and powerful and his body language reflects that. by looking down as well as backing down from...
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some would argue that obama has been given something of a pass on his record over the past year, and this might be the first real opportunity face-to-face to be pressed on his broken promises and record highs. high-d deaf sights and poverty d spending, on and on. from what you know of our friend, jim lair, do you expect these kinds of tough questions to come out in the debates? >> one of the talents of jim lair is the ability to ask questions that really reveal a lot from the people that he has as guests on his show or in a debate setting. not to put swuns on the defensive, but they can hang themselves with their own words sometimes. it's interesting to watch that interplay. >> with the exception of chris christ christie, both sides are trying to lower expectations in the debate in the last two weeks. the daily show had an amusing take on that last night. >> you're with the romney camp. how is he doing? >> you hate to beat an uphill battle like this. this is a president, the greater or for this country has seen since lincoln. >> you're with the president. >> the frightened president,
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$4,000 more in taxes on the middle class, we can't afford four more years. >>> from the obama campaign, an ad targeting mitt romney's plan, and calling it just an act. >> why was romney so dishonest about his plan? the massive new tax cut for millionaires means higher tax cuts for the middle class, and aarp says romney's plan undermines medicare by turning it into a voucher. we have real challenges to meet. children to educate, a class to rebuild. >> one more note within this past hour, the president left on a two-day campaign swing through california, on a campaign effort, how else do you think they pay for those ads? >> hey, you don't miss much, do you, alex? >> talking about the unemployment number, we also saw a strong debate, still about the debate. >> well, you know it is a good thing for the president's supporters and they're looking forward to it. he gets two more bites of the apple, when vp paul ryan goes up against joe biden, and candidates have less and less tried to paint it as a victory, nobody agrees with it. and david axelrod said the president let mitt romney get away w
$4,000 more in taxes on the middle class, we can't afford four more years. >>> from the obama campaign, an ad targeting mitt romney's plan, and calling it just an act. >> why was romney so dishonest about his plan? the massive new tax cut for millionaires means higher tax cuts for the middle class, and aarp says romney's plan undermines medicare by turning it into a voucher. we have real challenges to meet. children to educate, a class to rebuild. >> one more note within...
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obama offer the jobless that makes them hopeful about the next four years than the previous four? we don't know. >> a tough series of questions from "the washington post." your response. >> i don't think you'll hear platitudes from the president. you're going to hear specific plans. he's talked about building the economy from the middle class out and investing in energy and education. he's got a specific plan to do it. he set the goal of creating a million manufacturing jobs and laid out a plan how to do it to end tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he has a plan to reduce the cost of college tuition and further reduce our dependence on foreign oil because of the plans he's implemented we're at a 16-year low. i think you'll see him delve into those details tonight. we'll leave the zingers to the saturday night li"saturday nig t re-enactment and mitt romney. >> i have not said zinger and now i have. is that going to be enough for the american public? >> no. it's not actually. you know, all due respect to what's going on in chicago but the fundamental problem for the p
obama offer the jobless that makes them hopeful about the next four years than the previous four? we don't know. >> a tough series of questions from "the washington post." your response. >> i don't think you'll hear platitudes from the president. you're going to hear specific plans. he's talked about building the economy from the middle class out and investing in energy and education. he's got a specific plan to do it. he set the goal of creating a million manufacturing...
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it's been a bad four years for president obama. but the next debate is not going to be a presidential debate. it will be a vice presidential debate and the pressure is on joe biden to live up to his reputation this week as a policy expert and as a skilled debater, but i expect he'll do just fine. this will be his 18th either presidential or vice presidential debate. he's had a lot of practice at it. paul ryan's first. but again, in that case, we think we have the facts and the issues on our side with the obama/biden team you'll get another four years like the last four years with the romney/ryan team, a real recovery with more jobs for everybody. >> now politico is reporting today that ann romney and tagg his son, one of his sons did an intervention to try to save the campaign if you will and let mitt be mitt and get the candidate to talk more about himself, talk more emotionally to give the foreign policy speech. in pushing back against some of the staff. can you help us out on that? what is the -- your perspective about it? >> i
it's been a bad four years for president obama. but the next debate is not going to be a presidential debate. it will be a vice presidential debate and the pressure is on joe biden to live up to his reputation this week as a policy expert and as a skilled debater, but i expect he'll do just fine. this will be his 18th either presidential or vice presidential debate. he's had a lot of practice at it. paul ryan's first. but again, in that case, we think we have the facts and the issues on our...
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and something that barack obama has already done this year. the president of the united states has taken the time to take questions from the nickelodeon kids but mitt romney doesn't want to do it. why is mitt afraid of the nickelodeon kids? that's coming up. a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. of the most highly recommended bed in america -- the tempur-pedic ergo system. treat yourself to the ultimate sleep experience and save up to $400 during the tempur ergo savings event. plus, visit tempurpedic.com for full details on our 0% apr financing with up to five years to pay. don't wait. the tempur ergo savings event and five-year special financing end october 14th. visit tempurpedic.com now. tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america. i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup in their arteries. so it's ev
and something that barack obama has already done this year. the president of the united states has taken the time to take questions from the nickelodeon kids but mitt romney doesn't want to do it. why is mitt afraid of the nickelodeon kids? that's coming up. a crash management system and the world's only tridion safety cell which can withstand over three and a half tons. small in size. big on safety. of the most highly recommended bed in america -- the tempur-pedic ergo system. treat yourself...
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the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacific. >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he had short-line railroads, had them all over the country. anytime i wanted to know how the economy was going to do next quarter, i'd pick him up and say how much are you moving? he would tell me. he'd go, picking up. sure enough, railroads. leading indicator. at least from what i saw. >> if you've got employment, housing, autos and railroads and -- >> it's a tough argument to say that there's something wrong with the numbers. >> andy,
the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up....
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national polls has romney edging ahead of barack obama for the first time this year. the question is, is this what happens naturally, or was this spurred by the debate? >> it doesn't happen naturally. it happens after an earthquake. >> really? >> there was a political earthquake last week, the likes of which i've never seen in american politics, where a shift happened that dramatically in one night. donny, you've seen these things. i had somebody tell me you need seven positive impressions to move the dial here, and you need this and that. you guys have it all figured out. usually it it creeps up on people. but the race really did -- it just changed overnight during that debate. now, what's the long-term impact? we don't know. we know it will make it more competitive. romney will go ahead in states like florida, virginia, north carolina. these other states he still has room to make up. >> that's a great word, earthquake. pollsters haven't seen a shift like that. you need a debate in front of 70 million people. next week obama is actually the good news for him, he's an
national polls has romney edging ahead of barack obama for the first time this year. the question is, is this what happens naturally, or was this spurred by the debate? >> it doesn't happen naturally. it happens after an earthquake. >> really? >> there was a political earthquake last week, the likes of which i've never seen in american politics, where a shift happened that dramatically in one night. donny, you've seen these things. i had somebody tell me you need seven...
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. >> i voted for barack obama. i thought he would be a centrist. i really lost faith in him. i'm supporting mitt romney. he is a no excuse kind of guy and i think over the last four years we've heard enough excuses. >> bottom line question for romney is this. does his debate performance move the needle in the three big midwestern battleground states of ohio, iowa, and wisconsin? the romney campaign is clearly still wary about the toxic effect of the obama campaign's attacks on his personal wealth and also the damage of romney's own 47% comment. yesterday hailed as a hero in denver romney repeated one phrase he introduced on wednesday night, again and again and again. >> i saw the president's vision as trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. >> that trickle down government phrase looks like an attempt to neutralize attacks on his tax plan as just one more version of, quote, trickle down economics. romney did some major cleanup work yesterday on the comment that had been the most damaging to hi
. >> i voted for barack obama. i thought he would be a centrist. i really lost faith in him. i'm supporting mitt romney. he is a no excuse kind of guy and i think over the last four years we've heard enough excuses. >> bottom line question for romney is this. does his debate performance move the needle in the three big midwestern battleground states of ohio, iowa, and wisconsin? the romney campaign is clearly still wary about the toxic effect of the obama campaign's attacks on his...
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what happened about three years ago? wasn't there something going on with the automobile industry like a loan put out? but the company tries to claim their auto-related business did not benefit from the obama administration's auto loan. he writes, we survived because our business model and the money we have in the bank to survive these downturns, it would not have provided lax with any direct dollars. really? but who does lax enterprise count on as clients? general motors? chrysler? ford? sure lax didn't get direct dollars, but if it weren't for the automobile loan forked out by the obama administration, if mitt romney had had his way and let detroit go bankrupt, there wouldn't be all those cars for lax enterprises to make parts for, don't you think? tonight in our survey i asked, who do you trust when it comes to foreign policy decisions? 95% of you say president obama. 5% of you say mitt romney. >>> coming up, a new study shows how racist ohio's anti-early voting law was. nina turner is here with us. we're right back.
what happened about three years ago? wasn't there something going on with the automobile industry like a loan put out? but the company tries to claim their auto-related business did not benefit from the obama administration's auto loan. he writes, we survived because our business model and the money we have in the bank to survive these downturns, it would not have provided lax with any direct dollars. really? but who does lax enterprise count on as clients? general motors? chrysler? ford? sure...
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i would say even worse performance that barack obama did this year, about a week later, dick cheney debated john edwards. dick chainachina -- dick cheneyd to be a grownup. >> if joe biden turns in a bad performan performance, it could be what happened in '04. >>> we're all looking at that debate saying who gets the upper hand in the argument, real voters look at the vice president lt scandals saying who could be president? where you've got dick chain and john edwards as a comparison, who looks more presidential? whatever you think about their individual policies, who could step up and be the president, and i just think in that dynamic, some of that generational play is going to be for paul ryan and joe biden, whatever you think about paul ryan, is he a heart beat away from the president. and joe biden maybe filling those shoes there. could be gain shifting on both sides. >> and the way the debate's set up, it's going to be at a table, that's seated, i would say that's better for biden, when he's at a podium, he's more likely to be hotter with his mike. that was good for dick cheney, remembe
i would say even worse performance that barack obama did this year, about a week later, dick cheney debated john edwards. dick chainachina -- dick cheneyd to be a grownup. >> if joe biden turns in a bad performan performance, it could be what happened in '04. >>> we're all looking at that debate saying who gets the upper hand in the argument, real voters look at the vice president lt scandals saying who could be president? where you've got dick chain and john edwards as a...
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my 8-year-old daughter who asked, why is president obama so mad? and i think that's a really georgia, you know, good way of putting it. it looked as though he was at the wrong debate, he was in parallel play. and he had the classical presidential case of no one has spoken to him that way in four years. >> stop and say that again. chris matthews said it last night. maybe he was hailed at chief one too times. >> no one has spoken to him that way. no one has tried to interrupt him in four years. think it showed. >> that's what happens. emp agrees with you. it's hard to the say to the president, you're wrong, sir. no one interrupts you. no one tries to tell you control the room. that's the power of the presidency. he hasn't had an argument since john mccain in the third debate in 2008. a real argument of this kid kind. you're fighting for time. you're fighting for control of the room. it's not something a president has to do. >> any president, any governor, any senator, you're almost indignant that somebody would challenge you because you're you. a pre
my 8-year-old daughter who asked, why is president obama so mad? and i think that's a really georgia, you know, good way of putting it. it looked as though he was at the wrong debate, he was in parallel play. and he had the classical presidential case of no one has spoken to him that way in four years. >> stop and say that again. chris matthews said it last night. maybe he was hailed at chief one too times. >> no one has spoken to him that way. no one has tried to interrupt him in...
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president obama, as he has over the last 3 1/2 years, explained his vision for the country. and now you can choose. it's right there in front of you. >> you know the way i look at that? i have two members of my family, one working for romney, one working for obama, and i can see why both have made their choices. >> by the way, they both tell you that they're great leaders. >> great things. >> ian says romney's a great leader. >> amazing things. >> amazing things about romney. and, of course, mark says great, great things about the president. we're so lucky to live in this country. >> and my dad cuts them both down. >> yeah, he does. >>> coming up, "mad money's" jim cramer joins us. also "the washington post's" eugene robinson and nbc news political director chuck todd. mike allen with the "politico playbook" plus willie's "week in review." >>> up next, bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill. >> big changes this weekend. we'll watch temperatures on the east coast plunging. so enjoy today. a little taste of summer for everyone. first things first, the worst weather in
president obama, as he has over the last 3 1/2 years, explained his vision for the country. and now you can choose. it's right there in front of you. >> you know the way i look at that? i have two members of my family, one working for romney, one working for obama, and i can see why both have made their choices. >> by the way, they both tell you that they're great leaders. >> great things. >> ian says romney's a great leader. >> amazing things. >> amazing...
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years. >> wait. so you've got a document where barack obama is saying we've got to cut medicare $250 billion, which i think is responsible. but his campaign team is going out there every day saying watch out. we're not going to cut medicare, but mitt romney is. >> yeah. i mean, it's not just his campaign team. it's the president and himself. he says, we're going to reform and strengthen medicare for the long haul the right way by reducing the cost of health care. everyone would agree with that. not by shifting it onto seniors. well, in his own documents, he says, we have to do this. when i talk to him, he realized and said very openly that it's irresponsible to not address this. >> let's play a clip that you were alluding to. go ahead and roll it. >> all the democrats felt that for democrats to join with republicans in anything that could be painted as a medicare cut when there was a huge difference between democratic and republican positions on medicare generally was bad politics. it's an untenable
years. >> wait. so you've got a document where barack obama is saying we've got to cut medicare $250 billion, which i think is responsible. but his campaign team is going out there every day saying watch out. we're not going to cut medicare, but mitt romney is. >> yeah. i mean, it's not just his campaign team. it's the president and himself. he says, we're going to reform and strengthen medicare for the long haul the right way by reducing the cost of health care. everyone would...